Thailand’s Moment of Truth av: Andrew MacGregor Marshall.

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23 juni 2011#1
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23 juni 2011#3

Vad tycker du om det som sägs under demokraternas rally kontra vad som sägs av Thida på de rödas bevakning av rallyt just nu?

Har inte kollat... men Andrew MacGregor Marshall lär bli bannlyst i Thailand.

Eller man kanske kan vara så frispråkig om kungen?

noBuzz
23 juni 2011#4

Kriget mellan Andrew (Zenjournalist) och Thanong(Nation) på twitter är rätt intressant. :)

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23 juni 2011#5

Läst en 1/3 del av 1a pdf-en. Imponerade jobb.

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24 juni 2011#6

Läste 1a delen av 4... herrejävlar, nått är ruttet i Thailand :)

Glad midsommar !

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25 juni 2011#7

Del 2 uppe... med en youtube diskussion .

Militären o sittande regering får sig en runda...

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25 juni 2011#8

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/andrew-macgregor-marshall-why-i-decided-to-jeopardise-my-career-and-publish-secrets-2301363.html

Andrew MacGregor Marshall: Why I decided to jeopardise my career and publish secrets

Thailand is sliding backwards into repression – one stark indication of this is that just saying it is illegal

For the past month, I have worked 16 hours a day, without pay, on a story that is likely to be widely denounced. It is a story that has already cost me a job I loved with Reuters, after a 17-year career. Once it is published, I will be unable to return to one of my favourite countries for many years. There is a risk – small, but real – that I will face international legal action. And several people who I consider friends will be dismayed, and probably never talk to me again.

The obvious question is: why?

The answer is that – incredibly, a decade into the 21st century – this is the price that has to be paid for trying to tell the truth about an apparently modern and open country: Thailand.

Thailand claims to be a democracy, and it is holding general elections on 3 July. It claims to be a constitutional monarchy, where the widely beloved 83-year-old King Bhumibol has no political role but provides moral guidance.

There is no doubting the affection and respect that Thais have for their king. But Thailand's tragedy is that throughout its modern history, generals and courtiers have sabotaged Thai democracy while claiming to be acting in the name of the palace.

Thailand is sliding backwards into authoritarianism and repression. And one stark indication of this is that just saying it is illegal.

Thailand has the world's harshest lèse majesté law. Any insult to Bhumibol, Queen Sirikit or their son Crown Prince Vajiralongkorn, is punishable by three to 15 years in jail. Use of the law has surged, particularly since a coup in 2006. Respected academics and journalists are among those facing prison. One Thai-British professor, Giles Ungpakorn, is living in exile in London after fleeing Thailand following accusations he defamed the palace.

I arrived in Thailand in 2000, as Reuters' deputy bureau chief. I quickly fell in love with the luminous beauty of Thai culture and the warmth and joie de vivre of the people. It does not appear like a nation in the grip of repression, but things are not as they seem. The official story of a harmonious "Land of Smiles" is a fairy tale. Thailand is a country of secrets.

*borttaget på grund av 112 lagen *

Thailand's domestic media cannot report any of this, and the international media has resorted to explicit self-censorship. Journalists resort to vague hints when covering Thailand. As Pravit Rojanaphruk, one of the country's best correspondents, wrote this month: "The 'invisible hand', 'special power', 'irresistible force', all these words have been mentioned frequently lately by people, politicians and the mass media when discussing Thai politics, the upcoming general election and what may follow."

Three months ago I gained access to the "Cablegate" database of confidential US cables believed to have been downloaded by US soldier Bradley Manning in Iraq. There are more than 3,000 cables on Thailand. Unlike almost all reporting on the country, the cables do not mince words when it comes to the monarchy. As I read them I realised two things. They could revolutionise our understanding of Thailand. And there was no way I could write about them as a Reuters journalist.

Reuters employs more than 1,000 Thai staff. The risks to them were significant. In my 17 years at Reuters I've covered many conflicts; I spent two years as Baghdad bureau chief as Iraq collapsed into civil war. Several friends in the company have been killed. I've always been proud to work for Reuters. When I was told my story could never be published, I understood.

But I just could not accept giving up and ignoring the truth about Thailand. Thai people deserve the right to be fully informed, to debate their future without fear. With great regret, I resigned from Reuters at the start of June to publish my article for anybody who wants to read it.

Today, I have done that. I am now a criminal in Thailand. It is desperately sad to know that I cannot visit such a wonderful country again. But it would have been sadder still to have had the chance to tell the truth, and fail to do so. It's my duty as a journalist, and a human being, to do better than that. That's why I published my story.

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25 juni 2011#9

Ja, det har onekligen varit ganska intressant läsning. Gammalt blandat med nytt.

Några korta forsta reflektioner är att jag är lite forvånad over hur distanserad Prem verkar vara från Kungen, att drottningen är ännu lite mer aktivt involverad i politiken än forväntat. Jag är dock inte det minsta forvånad over att kablarna visar på brett stod for uppfattningen att det de facto var en tyst kupp i slutet på 2009, men det borde kanske en hel del andra medlemmar som kraftigt motsatt sig den tolkningen vara.

For ovrigt är det en intressant historisk vinkel som tar upp lite intressant info kring små mellanhändelser som kanske inte nodvändigtvis beskrivs i mainstream historiebocker.

Sam sip sam
Badvakt
25 juni 2011#10

Kriget mellan Andrew (Zenjournalist) och Thanong(Nation) på twitter är rätt intressant. :)

Kan inte förstå att det kan vara intressant att läsa om 2 sagofigurer (journalister)(lögnhalsar

)bättre nytta om du läser om rödluvan och dom sju vargarna för barnen får du nytta med nöje

jan53
25 juni 2011#11

Kan inte förstå att det kan vara intressant att läsa om 2 sagofigurer (journalister)(lögnhalsar

)bättre nytta om du läser om rödluvan och dom sju vargarna för barnen får du nytta med nöje

otroligt dum kommentar.alla har vi väl olika uppfattningar men din kommentar var bara så otroligt glyttig. :ironi:

Sam sip sam
Badvakt
25 juni 2011#12

otroligt dum kommentar.alla har vi väl olika uppfattningar men din kommentar var bara så otroligt glyttig. :ironi:

Ja du kan väl inte påstå att jounalister inte är annat en sagofigurer dom skriver för att tjäna pengar falskt eller sant skiter dom i bara dom får sälja och tjäna pengar

thats it :giggle: fan knappt man kan tro på resultatlistan i sportavdelningen längre ha ha

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25 juni 2011#13

Ja du kan väl inte påstå att jounalister inte är annat en sagofigurer dom skriver för att tjäna pengar falskt eller sant skiter dom i bara dom får sälja och tjäna pengar

thats it :giggle: fan knappt man kan tro på resultatlistan i sportavdelningen längre ha ha

Visste väl att det var nåt lurt med difs senaste resultat :rotfl:

Sam sip sam
Badvakt
25 juni 2011#14

Visste väl att det var nåt lurt med difs senaste resultat :rotfl:

Njae nu har man ju inte hört ngt från grabbarna på ösk:s vip läktare så det kan nog stämma + att jag hade en trovärdig kamrat på plats

så det bör stämma ha ha , vann djurgården tro ? eller hur fan gick det får kolla på google

noBuzz
25 juni 2011#15

Kan inte förstå ...

Ok. Ingen fara. Det kompenserar du kanske med din goda pyttipanna? :)

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